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For those who don't know I play 0001 just as much as 0102. This thread is just to do with those who play that game also, there will be no adverts for other sites & is just for me & others.
I do not want a mass debate like with 9900 thread so if you don't like it don't read it!!;) Demo - Full game with my DB - (Then rename the folder as Championship Manager 00-01 That goes for anybody else who wants to play 0001 and my DB. 0001 Original Picture Folder (rename Pictures once downloaded) - 4 DBs for you to play with, my CM2 9596 conversion, CM3 9899 conversion & orig db with legends and kids along with original players. Thanks to the forum board members for letting me post my latest DB & exe (orig db with legends and kids along with original players) - Switzerland, Romania & Ukraine replacing Wales, N & Rep Ireland - CM2 Project (Eng, Scottish leagues with other nations squads as per CM2 game) - CM3 Project (exact copy of CM3 9899 for 0001)- My exe is on 3.81 & has coloured atts, league/cup names changed to reflect today, Turkish league fixed thanks to JL, today's players as kids & 100s of legends for regens after season 1.
Suggestions and feedback always welcome & if anyone who isn't already playing it & wants to, send me a pm. You can find full game download quite easily but not going to advertise that but given 0102 is freeware then you shouldn't have a problem finding an 0001 full game free download but if you can't send me a PM;). CM 00/01 was more than just an update (Continuing where CM 99/00 left off, CM 00/01 played an important role in taking the next step in fulfilling CM 3's initial potential (The game now included a wealth of media feedback as well as a host of other new ideas. Also being equipped with the very latest player and team data (it was at the top of all CM player's shopping list!
Features Twenty-six concurrent leagues will be playable Accurate profiles and histories for over 50,000 players, managers, and coaches, collated by a dedicated army of football (fans from every corner of the globe A full interactive transfer system featuring all the elements of modern day negotiations Full international simulation featuring all the major tournaments plus B-team and U-21 management opportunities. Now includes the Olympic Games (U23 tournament Data Editor, allowing you to change and modify the stats used in the game. Keep your teams squads up to date or even add yourself into the game Local and National media involvement, you can now read and reply to media stories about the clubs and players and events in the game For the ultimate challenge you can now play the game using randomised fictional players The Daily Telegraph gave this game away free with their Fantasy Football competition. It got many new people hooked on the series. What are your reasons for playing this just as much as 01 02 mate? I play it as much as I use the original DB.
Main reasons are I can get a job in any country without issues that arose in 0102, background leagues not an issue, runs 4 times faster and can offer any staff any role unlike in 0102 when it is only coach/ass man. I like having all my scouts as club legends or other top former players. I also find it harder to win in & like Derm said tacs work differently.:lol: if I had my way you wouldn't even have a thread so less of the cheeky comments:D Top bloke Fods:D I played the version you gave me a link for recently Cam and the Palermo & Anelka combo is still beasty. Realized whilst playing it that the 4-1-3-2 actually works better on that version than 0102 as both strikers score a lot (from memory Anelka had 57 in 58 and Palermo 49 in 56).
Had the likes of Deisler in midfield:) Cheers Derm. I agree tacs work differently. This is from my drinking career game. I play it once a week for over 2 years.
It is the career I enjoy most and sadly this has impacted on my week day career games as they don't seem as good. I started off with Rangers but then got Real Madrid job at the end of the first season. I have remained as both Gers & RM for the entire career. The other clubs I have started off with smaller clubs and worked my way to the top or sideways if I got bored. At Gers Boyd has been a legend for me. Barry Ferguson retired at the end of the season & think I will leave Gers when Boyd retires. Same at Real, Raul just won't retire and can't see me staying on once he does retire.
Yeah,i like it also from time to time to play this version.i got lucky to change money prizes in England,France,Italy and in Euro competitions,offsets are very similar as in 01/02.my goal was to create Serbian/Yugoslav league patch for this version.still,not enough time for everything. Hmmn, interesting.
Might need to ask you how you did that. Going to post some pics of manager abilities as the thing I like about 0001 is I can trot round the world with little issue as long as I have been doing well in my career. I have created my own DB for 0001, it is the original game with old legends about for regens then lots of the players nowadays that are young. A bit like somebody did for 0102. Anyway just a bit of fun & will pass the time for me until the update is released for 0102.
I hadn't intended on releasing it but shared with a few regulars who seem to like it so thought why not. Still a work in progress but here it is - (You can find the game quite easily by a google search;) or you might already have the disk.
New update with changes suggested. A few pics for people. Young players - Tasty regens - http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/5189/clipboard01e.png.
Great stuff cam, i like the fact there is no editor bug in terms of a managers CA in this,and getting a job abroad - these are 2 clear advantages over 02, any others? Any other wee things like that mate in 01? Any ideas why there is a bug in 02 that fucks up managers?
would be great if we could sort that also cam, if you set 433 for a team managed by the AI, does it work? That's another blody bug that annoys me in 02:lol: are we updating the wrong game?:lol: any chance you could set two managers to play 433 and 343 and pop up a screen of their formations mate? 433 & 343 show up fine in this.
Another issue from 0102 that does not arise in this is the background league problem & stadium increases happen. That said I have tried to update 0001 to the current update but was unsuccessful on a few occasions, I think a lot of the issues you describe were to do with the 3.68 patch.
I did wonder about converting the update to the original 0102 game 3.60 but didn't have the moltivation. Besides the way I now look at is I play 0102 for the amazing OBD updates/CM3 project & play 0001 for old players http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/8854/clipboard03l.png. Thanks to the forum board members for letting me post my db & exe for 0001 - Suggestions and feedback always welcome:) & if anyone who isn't already playing it & wants to, send me a pm.
Update Patch Championship Manager 2008 Turkcentral
I have updated all of Scotland, England and most of the top clubs to have their real league appearance & goals records - I have also changed nearly all the league names I could within the parameters of the names editor - http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/1622/clipboard07.png. Just finished my cm00-01 one season run In England: 1) Man Utd with 10 defeats (i guess there wasnt such resukts in every history, that champion lost 10 games) 2) Coventry 3) Arsenal 4) Southampton imagine that cool guys in UCL in real 2000 year:) In Italy: 1) Juventus 2) Inter 3) Bologna 4) Lazio Milan and Roma finished 12 and 13 In Spain 1) Barcelona with 9 deftats 2) Atletico Madrid 3) Valencia 4) Deportivo In Holland - Vitesse is champion, In Belgium - Giel.
I guess too many sensational results:) and thats almost every save:) maybe i didnt need to patch? Maybe in older versions engine working better? Been amending my update so it works on the original version of the game as that is the one I play & is more like 99/00 than 0102 which the last patch of 0001 was.
Anyway, here is my DB & exe. Changed nearly all league & cup names & is quality. Thanks to MarcoVanBast who is a LEGEND in my eyes:hail: he has speeded up my exe to max 200 speed so if you want to play my 0001 with max speed replace with this exe Keep the other one if you want to go back to manual speed. P.S - Note to info0 - Please make me a tactic for 0001 now you can test at max speed:). Thanks to MVB & 200 speed 0001 doing a mini OTL to try and find a tac that works on 0001 as nothing seems to work.
My premise is basically the same. De graaf, except 5 1st seasons. So far as I suspected & even 80 points on average is a pipe dream. To think it is what 88 points or somthing daft like that in 0102 OTL.
Tap's Iodine even scored 59 point in 1 of the tests & my IodineCF did pants as well. Will keep trying but will be a long term thing as can't be arsed holiday testing. Should also add I will be testing on 3.81 patch as I don't play 3.89 as I prefer 3.81. It's results like that that make me wonder why/how the CM0102 staff got it so wrong when tweaking the game engine. They effectively ruined a challenging game engine in order to produce 'this years edition of the game we'd already made great' to line their own pockets. I have always thought they did it deliberatly.
All the things that annoy me (Getting a job abroad, background leagues not working properly, game too easy.etc) occured with 0102 3.68 Patch which which just happened to be released after CM4 was in the shops. Any particular reason why you play with v3.81, Cam? I like being able to offer any staff member scout jobs & have my backroom staff filled with club legends doing the scouting or foreign legends scouting their nation. I can hop around the world taking jobs, background leagues work perfectly, players develop normally, apart from that just always the one I have used & is not so easy to win things compared to 0102. I still play 0102 tho also with OBD updates, CM3 & CM2 projects but admittedly not a lot in last year.
Been working on this again. Amended US teams to same as Sep OBD except used the Names Editor so they are the full names, i.e - Full name - New York Red Bulls, short name - New York. Shame really as liked Miami Fusion & Tampa Bay but they no longer exists so went with the same - Houston Dynamos & Real Salt Lake instead. Going to do Australia next, funnily enough I had done it previously but will now change it back to todays teams for the A league, plus leave 6 as the league is 10 but in game 16. P.S - Done the above & quality additions I think, will do a bit more, test it works then post an update DB & exe.
Just can't go back to 01/02 after this, despite the amazing amount of time the updaters put into it, i just love all the young amazing players in this database, and the fact the legends are kept in the game for their regens to return. Also, the speed of the game whilst running all leagues on max DB is still smooth. Honestly, if this had coloured attributes, it would be the complete game for me. Please somebody make this happen! Would happily donate some money on paypal if somebody could fix it! Was always better than 0102 imo.
Was great game at the time and was always easier to switch jobs from memory. Is there a way to extract the 0102 database and insert it in to the 0001 editor and vice versa using some sort of tool? I'm thinking JohnLocke might be handy here. It's the same tool I used for CM3 Project - JL's Extractor/Injector. The problem is that the current Sep OBD has Montengro as an additional country & I don't know how to do it (well, Derm kindly explained how but I still wasn't sure). The other issue is you can't use the 0102 editor to mass delete (like I did with no player DB for 0102)& if you do it corrupts it & the 0001 editors can't handle mass deleting either. I actually prefer it so I can play 0102 for up to date DB by the site here & play 0001 for old school fun with players long retired & all the kids coming through of top players now.
It's the same tool I used for CM3 Project - JL's Extractor/Injector. The problem is that the current Sep OBD has Montengro as an additional country & I don't know how to do it (well, Derm kindly explained how but I still wasn't sure). The other issue is you can't use the 0102 editor to mass delete (like I did with no player DB for 0102)& if you do it corrupts it & the 0001 editors can't handle mass deleting either. I actually prefer it so I can play 0102 for up to date DB by the site here & play 0001 for old school fun with players long retired & all the kids coming through of top players now.
I thought the Extractor/Injector might play a role in this. What's this issue about Montengro?
Could it be resolved by removing all players from Montengro or by switching their nationality to Serbian? This would be pretty easy to do in Excel (Find & Replace). Seems like you need two blank databases (one for 0102 and one for 0001) to be able to swap the databases then? Don't get me wrong, I see your point, and I appreciate the hard work done by the update team, but I'd like to play a game with the latest database but with the game engine of 0001. I thought the Extractor/Injector might play a role in this. What's this issue about Montengro? Could it be resolved by removing all players from Montengro or by switching their nationality to Serbian?
This would be pretty easy to do in Excel (Find & Replace). Seems like you need two blank databases (one for 0102 and one for 0001) to be able to swap the databases then?
Don't get me wrong, I see your point, and I appreciate the hard work done by the update team, but I'd like to play a game with the latest database but with the game engine of 0001. That's why I played 0001 ahead of 0102 for 7 years until I discovered this site back in 2008, since then I played both side by side but now have been playing 0001 again the last year while still playing 0102 but not the same scale, if anything I spend more time on pet projects CM2 & 3 Projects or making tacs for 0102. Ruben here is the fast 1 I had, the exe has been altered since but seems to work despite getting an error message on loading my game. It was MarcoVanBast who changed it for me but not notice him on recently to get him to change my current exe, he also said he could change the year on 0001 also which would be cool.
Update - na exe doesn't work sadly, getting random error messages. I use normal speed anyway. If MVB is on you could maybe ask if he could change my current exe. Converted my favourite tac for 0001, info0's DWSv5 into a 442. Not unbeatable in the slightest but does well enough & thing I am really liking is the whole team is playing well with good averages.
The left midfielder rattles home the goals, 1st season he got 34, 2nd 27 & 10 so far into November in 3rd season. Also surprsingly the right centre half is an assist master in the formation. 28 assists season 2 & 15 by november in season 3. Here it is if any of the 0001 players want to try it - Respect to info0 for the great tac. I started a network game with friends in 00/01 because we were unhappy with 01/02 where it was too hard to move clubs, and even with non/wib wobbed tactics I was winning too easily (my friends struggled since they have no knowledge of the right players in 01/02) That was a golden move. We were Liverpool (me), Newcastle (friend #1) and Arsenal (friend #2).I ran out champions (Owen&Fowler combo was deadly), then moved to Kaiserslautern at the end of the season.
My friends finished 4th (Arsenal) and 6th (Newcastle). The Arsenal manager resigned in season 2 (he was fed up with his defense:P ) and within a week he already had another job at AZ. Moving from club to club is sooo much easier and makes the game nicer Plus it's way harder to win. I'm actually struggling with Kaiserslautern. Well, I'm 2nd in the league, but it's a real battle every match. In CM 01/02 after a month or two building the team you'd know you'd win every match or almost every match. Managed to save my game I started way back in 2009 & 20 seasons in but decided to shake things up & retire as Bayern Munich & Celtic manager but they were both well travlled managers as you can see below.
Will need to just cope with being manager of Real Madrid, Man U, Rangers & a new club I found called Winsford United. Quick google search & got club & stadium backgrounds for Winsford. Will be a battle alright but going to take a few wins to get there:D http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/8585/clipboard01km.png. I was working yesterday on an interesting plan for my update, those on SB yesterday would of heard me chatting about it. It crashed on my test but will try again as if that doesn't work I can change it so it will defo work.
I had thought it might not work but I am hopeful. My plan was basically to create legends from history who will come back as regens. I made them as managing directors/players. You would not be able to see their abilitys bar a few unless you cheated & looked for them in the editor. Players I created yesterday were.
Edit - Taking out the list players so far, so it will be more fun when you find a good talented kid when your playing the game. No fun if you know what to look out for:D. This is progressing quite nicely:D been adding & testing. Great thanks to AMC who has been assisting me with this. Here are a few regens, funny what clubs they end up at 15 years in:lol: Open to suggestions of players to add.
Johan Cruyff Diego Maradona Dino Zoff Michel Platini Kenny Dalglish George Best Ferenc Puskas http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/7581/clipboard01pn.png. Looks awesome, although some of them don't seem to get as many caps as they should. Don't know if that can be ammended? How did you make it work? The Puskas didn't regen until he was 27 wierdly, maybe because he was Hungarian, not sure tbh then he signed for Rayo when they were in div 2 at 29 so his caps not that bad considering.
Any top player playing in SPL in 0001 or 0102 doesn't get picked by a big nation, bit real life tbh. The Cruyff played in US which limited hisa caps but once he moved to EPL he started racking them up. The Dalglish just was unlucky, happens some times, signing for a smaller club in a smaller league.
The Best, wow, what a player he will be. Really good at 18 who got him on a free:lol: Trip, I made them managing directors/players so they were invisible while players & retired at end of first season. Stats I copied from FM10 legends update fods gave me or made up myself. I think it will make it really intersting, unless you CM scout you will stumble on players with immense ability. Done as much editing as i can be bothered doing at moment & going to enjoy christmas & a new career game:D. Here is my db Spent weeks improving players who had been downgraded since CM3 & restored them to those settings. I also added per spoiler, legends for regens who will retire at end of season and make the game interesting.
If you want to find them organically you may find them or may not. Edit - If you want some other legends added & think you know the stats let me know. Updated DB with now 56 'Legends' of former times. My reasoning is if your going to get a Messi or Ronaldo regen in the OBD update which in reality isn't that likely but it's a game we are playing, why not have more class players to find in the game. Cliplets download mac. If you include all the other players I brought back from CM2-99/00 it is probably more like 250:lol: I honestly think this is a great idea you should try & include in the main update, so many players you could have for their regens - Baggio, Maradona, Romario, Gascoigne.etc but at the end of day that is just my humble opinion & not trying to split hairs. Cam, I assume this does actually work in 0102 as well? I personally wouldn't be in favour of implementing it into the updates though.
My thinking is thus: At any given time there is a parabola of abilities. By then adding a bunch of legends who should theoretically become very good that parabola would be skewed away from it's natural average; there will be too many good players in the CM world (in fact there already is). Nonetheless it is a very clever piece of thinking on your part and can add a bit of fun to the game I suppose. I can only speak from an 0001 point of view but the regens in mine return spot on. When they reach their peak they are as you expected but often can be found as frees to start with. Like 0102 the determination seems to lower but not to 1 or as low as that but sometimes as low as 7 i have seen.
I decided not to have -2s as I like the certainty of legend regens to be how I expected. After Coys made comments i changed -2 to a set PA amount for the young kids so you know they end up how they are now, as his point made total sense. I can see your point there Alan, but obviously if somebody only has 130 PA then the game won't let them keep their high stats from the editor, they would be downgraded surely? Equally or not though i'm not sure. They might keep a lot of their 20's but have hardly any points in anything else, and that would be incredibly un balanced as you say because you only need high numbers in a few attributes to be a good player in CM.
At Cam, your database is fine the way it is mate, this discussion is just aimed at 01/02. Don't change your database for anybody, i love seeing loads of amazing players coming into the game. Also setting the youngsters to have the same PA as they do in the September Update was a great change as it mirros the real life development of them that we witnessed! I'm actually currently in the process of replicating Cam's work but with the 01/02 September update. Added around 15 english legends and 10 french legends into the database so far with accurate stats and retirement dates set so that they regen quickly and can't sign for anybody.
Only problem i'm having though is that it's a little buggy. When i load a lot of leagues with maximum database, only half of the future retirements actually work, but when i load minimum database they all work. Done Holiday tests and the regens turn out very good. Just need to work out why the retirements don't always work! Wow, over 8k view.
Been working on the update all week funnily enough but mostly adding Scottish players. Worked my way through FM07 editor looking for players who I had heard of but not yet added & done all of Scotland. Now started on EPL. MVB's speeded up exe also helped testing, as I test the db after every night as sometimes it gets corrupted & have to start again but all good after 1 duff updating day. Tbh honest it is at a level I could only dream of a few months ago, with djole2mcloud helping rename the leagues & cups, MVB with the speeded up exe & all those who have helped improve the DD like coys with his suggestions and all those who have helped out.
The thing is as it is a set year the changes once in don't need to be changed each year so a bit of a constant work in progress. Next stage would be for some1 to help me change the prize money as not as easy to do as in 0102 & then need to add B teams is somethign I am missing for a few teams but will do it eventually for the likes of Villereal.